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	Comments on: An Obituary for Alfred Kroeber (or&#8230;Can American Indians Speak?)	</title>
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		By: Tania Chong		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tania Chong]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Dr Lowry, I came by your post via an Edx course I am doing. I am not an anthropologist, just a teacher from New Zealand, so have nothing to add to your words. Just wanted to say thank you so much. I have often wondered where American Indians are. In Aoteoroa New Zealand, Maori are still marginalised and suffering from colonialism in many ways but are very visible, and there are lots of Maori academics, politicians etc (including from my own iwi, or tribe). I know there are networks between Maori and Native Americans via indigenous networks, which I see as a good thing, but it&#039;s difficult to understand why you still need to fight just to be recognised in your own country.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dr Lowry, I came by your post via an Edx course I am doing. I am not an anthropologist, just a teacher from New Zealand, so have nothing to add to your words. Just wanted to say thank you so much. I have often wondered where American Indians are. In Aoteoroa New Zealand, Maori are still marginalised and suffering from colonialism in many ways but are very visible, and there are lots of Maori academics, politicians etc (including from my own iwi, or tribe). I know there are networks between Maori and Native Americans via indigenous networks, which I see as a good thing, but it&#8217;s difficult to understand why you still need to fight just to be recognised in your own country.</p>
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		By: Agustin Fuentes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Agustin Fuentes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2021 23:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;/2021/02/05/an-obituary-for-alfred-kroeber-or-can-american-indians-speak/comment-page-1/#comment-4852&quot;&gt;David Shane Lowry&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you for the thoughtful and powerful response.  I am sorry the 2017 conference did not do a better job of engagement. You are right in the lag/lack of respect and recognition by Anthropology writ large.  Change is long overdue. There are some areas of improvement, I see the SING consortium  as a significant move forward, but they remain few and far between.  It was awful that my former employer (ND) failed to develop an American Indian program despite multiple faculty pushing for such an outcome. I was glad that at least my dept. formed collaborations with the Pokégnek Bodéwadmik (whose land ND sits  on) while I was there. I do not yet know the landscape here at my new location, but will keep your words in front of me and try as best i can to make a difference. Thanks for your essay, your response to my comment and for not letting  this be ignored.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="/2021/02/05/an-obituary-for-alfred-kroeber-or-can-american-indians-speak/comment-page-1/#comment-4852">David Shane Lowry</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you for the thoughtful and powerful response.  I am sorry the 2017 conference did not do a better job of engagement. You are right in the lag/lack of respect and recognition by Anthropology writ large.  Change is long overdue. There are some areas of improvement, I see the SING consortium  as a significant move forward, but they remain few and far between.  It was awful that my former employer (ND) failed to develop an American Indian program despite multiple faculty pushing for such an outcome. I was glad that at least my dept. formed collaborations with the Pokégnek Bodéwadmik (whose land ND sits  on) while I was there. I do not yet know the landscape here at my new location, but will keep your words in front of me and try as best i can to make a difference. Thanks for your essay, your response to my comment and for not letting  this be ignored.</p>
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		By: David Shane Lowry		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2021 23:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;/2021/02/05/an-obituary-for-alfred-kroeber-or-can-american-indians-speak/comment-page-1/#comment-4850&quot;&gt;Agustin Fuentes&lt;/a&gt;.

Dear Dr. Fuentes,

Thank you for reflecting on my words. I had no idea that you helped create the theme for the 2017 AAA Conference. However, I am glad that I have your attention. At that conference, several American Indian anthropologists met in a small conference room along a back hallway at the conference center. We all were laughing and joking and then an elder academic began to discuss how we (American Indians) didn’t matter to anthropology. He had hope for the future, but his tears showed how much pain anthroplogy has caused to the small consortium of American Indian scholars.

On that note, I was at the 2013 talk where Leith Mullins spelled out why “anthropology matters”.  I remember that she talked about Democratization and not De-colonization. She often said “Indigenous” and “subaltern” — but she didn’t talk about the 600+ American Indian nations that are often just outside the doors of America’s anthropology Departments. She mentioned “observatories” — which, in my mind, was a continuation of the “anthro is neutral” colonial academic model. She even quoted my advisor James Peacock who said something like: “Anthropology is needed...and if it wasn’t already here it would have to be invented”. Well, it WAS invented, on the heads of American Indians. It then helped breathe life into other disciplines that did the same suppressive work.

I interviewed for a faculty job with your former employer - ND - and as soon as I asked about working with local Native American communities...well, the air left out of the interview. Was it me? Or was it them? It would be nice to be appreciated as an American Indian scholar (not seen as a risk).

Indeed, I have asked your current employer - Princeton - why they have openly supported Black scholarship with pretty much NO attention paid to American Indian scholarship.

Thanks, again. Peace and safety.

DSL]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="/2021/02/05/an-obituary-for-alfred-kroeber-or-can-american-indians-speak/comment-page-1/#comment-4850">Agustin Fuentes</a>.</p>
<p>Dear Dr. Fuentes,</p>
<p>Thank you for reflecting on my words. I had no idea that you helped create the theme for the 2017 AAA Conference. However, I am glad that I have your attention. At that conference, several American Indian anthropologists met in a small conference room along a back hallway at the conference center. We all were laughing and joking and then an elder academic began to discuss how we (American Indians) didn’t matter to anthropology. He had hope for the future, but his tears showed how much pain anthroplogy has caused to the small consortium of American Indian scholars.</p>
<p>On that note, I was at the 2013 talk where Leith Mullins spelled out why “anthropology matters”.  I remember that she talked about Democratization and not De-colonization. She often said “Indigenous” and “subaltern” — but she didn’t talk about the 600+ American Indian nations that are often just outside the doors of America’s anthropology Departments. She mentioned “observatories” — which, in my mind, was a continuation of the “anthro is neutral” colonial academic model. She even quoted my advisor James Peacock who said something like: “Anthropology is needed&#8230;and if it wasn’t already here it would have to be invented”. Well, it WAS invented, on the heads of American Indians. It then helped breathe life into other disciplines that did the same suppressive work.</p>
<p>I interviewed for a faculty job with your former employer &#8211; ND &#8211; and as soon as I asked about working with local Native American communities&#8230;well, the air left out of the interview. Was it me? Or was it them? It would be nice to be appreciated as an American Indian scholar (not seen as a risk).</p>
<p>Indeed, I have asked your current employer &#8211; Princeton &#8211; why they have openly supported Black scholarship with pretty much NO attention paid to American Indian scholarship.</p>
<p>Thanks, again. Peace and safety.</p>
<p>DSL</p>
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		By: Agustin Fuentes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Agustin Fuentes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2021 21:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[oops, Leith Mullings 2015, not 2005,  typo.    https://anthrosource.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/aman.12165]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oops, Leith Mullings 2015, not 2005,  typo.    <a href="https://anthrosource.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/aman.12165" rel="nofollow ugc">https://anthrosource.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/aman.12165</a></p>
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		By: Agustin Fuentes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Agustin Fuentes]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dear Dr. Lowry,
thank you for this excellent, timely and important post.  I very much appreciate this perspective and as a graduate of the program at UCB almost three  decades ago and a participant in the discourse around what anthropology is and  what it can be I think your intervention is right on target.  I do want to respond to a query you open up the piece with: it was me, as program chair, that came up with the &quot;Anthropology Matters&quot; theme drawing on Leith Mulling&#039;s 2005 essay  with that title and her call for an anthropology that tackled the issues and problems of racism, bias and the ineffectiveness of the discipline head-on in order to  reconstitute a better anthropology. One that makes a real and positive difference.  Your essay highlights one specific area where that can and must happen. For the 2017 meeting I worked in concert with colleagues in the BLM movement and a range of  activist/engaged anthropologists to try and craft a meeting that did not shy away from the good, the bad and the ugly  of anthropology. I learned a lot.  Some of what I tried to do was succesful much was not.  I hope that  our efforts  contributed at least a little in the vein of the argument you lay out here. That was our intention. I also  encourage folks to read Prof. Mullings 2005 article and to keep, as you are doing here, to not just hold anthropology accountable and  but to demand change.    Stay safe and be well, -Agustin Fuentes]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Dr. Lowry,<br />
thank you for this excellent, timely and important post.  I very much appreciate this perspective and as a graduate of the program at UCB almost three  decades ago and a participant in the discourse around what anthropology is and  what it can be I think your intervention is right on target.  I do want to respond to a query you open up the piece with: it was me, as program chair, that came up with the &#8220;Anthropology Matters&#8221; theme drawing on Leith Mulling&#8217;s 2005 essay  with that title and her call for an anthropology that tackled the issues and problems of racism, bias and the ineffectiveness of the discipline head-on in order to  reconstitute a better anthropology. One that makes a real and positive difference.  Your essay highlights one specific area where that can and must happen. For the 2017 meeting I worked in concert with colleagues in the BLM movement and a range of  activist/engaged anthropologists to try and craft a meeting that did not shy away from the good, the bad and the ugly  of anthropology. I learned a lot.  Some of what I tried to do was succesful much was not.  I hope that  our efforts  contributed at least a little in the vein of the argument you lay out here. That was our intention. I also  encourage folks to read Prof. Mullings 2005 article and to keep, as you are doing here, to not just hold anthropology accountable and  but to demand change.    Stay safe and be well, -Agustin Fuentes</p>
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